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Can anyone help me in providing a solution?


I own a 2006 Renault 1.5 diesel engined Nissan Note with 35,000miles on the clock. I have owned it since Feb 2011 and have driven it for just over 7,000 trouble free miles.


I have recently serviced the car and fitted a new timing belt kit and fuel filter and it has run perfectly for many weeks since.


Two months ago I put the car up on ramps to check the gearbox oil level as there has been a slight leak from the N/S diff oil seal. I topped the gearbox up and had put a 5 litre oil can with a funnel in the top to catch any overfilled oil.


When I finished the job I rolled the car down off the ramps and had forgotten to remove this oil can and funnel. As a result the can was knocked over and oil spilled all over my drive. ( I only mention this fact just in case as I, you may give thought to the fact that this action may have dislodged something, causing my current fault)?


Anyway, when I went to the car later, I pulled off my drive and drove down the road. The car began to surge and splutter and generally hold back with puffs of black smoke emitting from the exhaust?


I drove to town, bought some fuel system cleaner, put it in the tank and drove on for a few miles more. The car continued to surge and splutter with the puffs of black smoke.


Ever since, the car has settled into periods whereby it has good periods and bad.


The surging and spluttering with black smoke stopped. The car starts as it should and ticks over perfectly.


When it is on its good period it absolutely flies for its engine size without issue whatsoever. AND there is and has never been any engine management lights coming on?


I can start her in the mornings as normal but when I drive off there is no apparent Turbo Boost and she feels as flat as a pancake. Sometimes she clears on the journey and goes back into normal boost flying mode.


Sometimes my whole journey is as flat as a pancake. But when I start her up to come home she flies from the off ?


I have changed the Turbo Boost solenoid valve to no avail.


More recently I changed the EGR valve and she was perfect from the off until the next day when she began to play up all over again?


Of late it has become apparent that she has seemed to clear herself when running down hill?


Then she can run for miles or hours on end without issue.


Unfortunately, she can also do this in the flat as a pancake mode too?


Your observations and advice would be most appreciated, as this really is a fantastic little engine / vehicle which I am desperate to get sorted.
 

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Your symptoms sound like egr valve, but you say that it had a new one, so I don't know.
It could be turbo related.

I'd seriously think about trading it in rather than pouring money into it, the renault engine does have a bit of a reputation for self destructing
 

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Have you put too much gearbox oil in? The oil needs to expand when hot i.e. space to move and expand. Try taking some out.

If I was you, I would check thetimingto make sure that it is correct and not moved.If correct,get it checked out by Nissan or your localgarage.

The car has only done 35k and I would not think of changing it.
I have not come across anything that says that the engine is bad. mnl - would you like toelaborate?

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It is actually the 1.9 and 1.6 that have had a fair few failures. Try googling 1.6dci failure or fault, or ask an independent mechanic what they think of the Renault diesels. You could also ask the quasquai boys about the 1.6dci.

However, there are millions of these engines about so these can still only be a very small percentage.

Personally, if I had been through what the OP has I'd seriously consider getting rid of it.

My first thought was egr valve.
When this sticks it can set off all manner of problems if exhaust temperatures rise (without the recirculation), one is it can knock out the turbo oil seals leading to bearing failure- which will self destruct the engine once it starts consuming its own oil.
Probably worth checking the turbo itself as about the only thing left.
 

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As I wrote, lots of these about, and garages and forums only hear about the ones that give problems. It doesn't take many with the same fault to build up a reputation.


Check the turbo, and have a look in the intercooler for signs of oil, and if all is well, the best suggestion I can offer is either take to a dealer, and start throwing money at it, or take the hit and get rid.
 

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Gear oil level would have nothing to do with it. This is a very nice motor with very low miles and does not suffer from any oil burning etc. I am aware of the turbo seals problem but this would be the same for any turbo'd car as they all feed off the engines oil supply. This is purely a simple fix but it is just finding the cause. There is deffo nothing major wrong as she performs so well.
When it is in cleared mode it flies. It starts perfect, it idles perfect and there has never been any engine management lights coming on.



I will take it back to my local independent garage on monday as they had it weeks ago and did a diagnostic check. They found that the little turbo boost solenoid was off its mounting at the side of the rad and there was one of the small vac pipes off it too. But this was down to my negligence the night before in the rain. Sods Law, they did the simple two second fix, road tested it and she was in flying mode, then rang me to say they'd fixed it when they hadn't really. Charged me £78 but tbh at the time I was over the moon to learn that it wasn't a turbo fault.
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there are some engines that have deflectors in the intakes and these are known to break off and cause intermttent levels of performance. I don't know the diesel engine in the Note well enough to know but maybe worth some investigation?
 

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the other thing I would check, is to see if any electrical connectors or wiring has been disturbed or damaged by the oil can/funnel accident, an intermettent connection as a result could give the symptoms you report.
 

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I wouldn't go back to the garage that didn't find it, and charged £78 to look under the bonnet and spot a pipe off.

Set a budget of what you are prepared to throw at it, and take it to a Nissan dealer or a diesel specialist where they know the engine and the electronic systems in the car.
Nowadays, garages tend to fix things by continual substitution of parts, each time charging you the earth, until the fault goes away. (Usually by itself)
 

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Sometimes it is hard to interpret the tone in which aresponsehas been written.As a Global Quality Manager in the automotive industry, I was giving someprofessionaladvice which I thought may help.
 

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Think I've sorted it? Took battery off and got airbox out to dicover that the MAF sensor plug had come adrift from the sensor. Looks like the problem fixed.





Thanks for your help and comments.
 
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