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Hi Guys.I only found this Forum a few days ago even though we bought the Note for my wife in July 2009. It is a Tekna Auto 1.6.
When we were choosing which car to buy, it had to be an auto, we test drove every possible small auto car on the market I think.
The one big thing that came over loud and clear was how poor the ride quality was on almost all the small'ish cars we tried. Hard and very jiggly was the norm.
My wife had had a Golf auto for years and I had a Peugeot 406 diesel, so we were both used to a nice composed ride.
When we test drove the Note it was immediately chalk and cheese. It felt like a big expensive car, so composed.
It was at the time the Govt were backing a scheme to give big guaranteed trade-in's for over 10 year old cars if Iremembercorrectly.
We were about to order a new one when the garage came up with an offer on a low mileage, previous model, registered 3 2008, for a better deal than the trade-in.
When we took delivery of it, not having had the opportunity to drive it before the deal was struck, I was devastated to find that the ride was nothing like the one we test drove. Much firmer. To be fair it was still better than all the other jiggly ones we had tried but NOT feeling like a limo.
Has anyone else had the chance to compare those 2 models and can comment on the ride?

Ted99uk.
 

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You should have gone for the new one mate, as the 2010 models had a serious revamp in several crucial areas, e.g. ride, interior plastics and fuel economy.
 

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The Tekna has very low profile tyres on 16" wheels.
The base model has larger tyres on 15" rims which gives a much better ride.
You could swap the wheels and tyres for ones from an Accenta, but don't forget to tell your insurer.
 

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the 16" wheels have quite a tall side wall imo
the difference between the pre and post facelift is like night and day having driven both, if anything the facelift rolls a bit to much in the corners as you say the pre facelift gives a harder drive and does feel as connected to the road like the later ones
 

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I'm happy to be corrected on whether it would make a noticable difference to ride comfort, but 185/55r16 has a sidewall height of 4.00" and a 185/65r15 has a sidewall height of 4.73"

I think 3/4" more squashy air will make quite a difference.
 

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I should add that I have a 2008 Tecna and I think it rides nicely, but I'm comparing it to a Suzuki Jimny and my old Corsa on low profile tyres.
 

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mnl said:
I should add that I have a 2008 Tecna and I think it rides nicely, but I'm comparing it to a Suzuki Jimny and my old Corsa on low profile tyres.

Go and try the later model and see if you think it rides much better. I did.

In everyotherrespect the Note has been superb.
The auto gearbox is head and shoulders better than all the other small automatics of the non-traditional torque-converter type, which I tried.
Without exception all the "new" types were horrible. Some of them so unbelievably bad I am amazed any manufacturer released them and even more amazed anyone buys them.
I reckon the sort of people who do buy them are lucky. Life must be so simple when you accept anything that is thrown at you and are not selective and very picky like me.

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I find the 16 inch wheels with the 4" sidewalls perfectly acceptable on most roads , it's just the frost cracked and potholed ones where it's a bit noisy and crashy but the road holding is far better than the 15" wheels, unless pure comfort is your requirement.
 

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ted99uk said:
The auto gearbox is head and shoulders better than all the other small automatics of the non-traditional torque-converter type, which I tried.
Did you try the CVT in the Jazz? I like the sound and feel of the torque converter, the CVT would take some getting used to but should be ok. But there are so few about due to the massive price penalty.

I wouldn't even consider the triptronic/easytronic types, they are just an electric foot on the clutch and are useless in traffic and when manoevering.
That didn't leave a lot of choice, the teeny little vauxhall that I forget the name of, the big engined Astra, and I think the Yaris are about it.
 

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All cvt units have a short life span and give trouble long before complete failure, my friends garage in Liverpool specialises in auto transmission repairs and most are unrepairable (cost prohibitive)due to wear in the cones etc.
 

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nothing like a proper auto box alas the makers want low emmision cars these days, i dont like cvt boxes the early vauhall easytronic cvt eat clutches and the electronics tend to fail notchy and jerky
Aston martin did and semi-auto with manual gearbox thay ditched it within 6 months for a proper auto with a manual shift mode
 

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Aston martin did and semi-auto with manual gearbox thay ditched it within 6 months for a proper auto with a manual shift mode
This is true, but only because a certain Mr. J. Clarkson of Chipping
Norton kept crying about it on national tv. NOT really a major problem
for the rest of us.
 

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mnl said:
ted99uk said:
The auto gearbox is head and shoulders better than all the other small automatics of the non-traditional torque-converter type, which I tried.
Did you try the CVT in the Jazz? I like the sound and feel of the torque converter, the CVT would take some getting used to but should be ok. But there are so few about due to the massive price penalty.

I wouldn't even consider the triptronic/easytronic types, they are just an electric foot on the clutch and are useless in traffic and when manoevering.
That didn't leave a lot of choice, the teeny little vauxhall that I forget the name of, the big engined Astra, and I think the Yaris are about it.

We tried a Jazz but I can't remember if it was the auto one. I don't "think" so as I don't think they had a demonstrator.
I have just done a bit of Googling and it seems there were problems with the 08 to 010 Jazz auto's and they are now bringing out a torque-converter model.
We liked the Jazz but when we tried the Note auto the Jazz was forgotten.
MANY years ago I drove the Dutch built belt-drive CVT pioneer DAF. It was interesting but weird. The engine rose to fairly high revs and stayed there, hardly altering, as the gearing changed with the cars speed. It had major "belt" reliability problems and was eventually bought by Volvo and the CVTabandoned. ItbecameVolvo's small car. It was well ahead of its time as belts weren't good enough back then.

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They use steel belts now and they are still not good enough, they form grooves on the cones and give uneven speed change and eventually get stuck in the groove when it's deep enough, giving very harsh driving in that groove area. All thats left to salvage from the box is the outer casing!
 

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The vauxhall easytronic was a manual gearbox type with solenoid motor driven selector forks and clutch actuator, when it works it's fine but service neglect etc soon brings faults.
 

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and what's wrong with the self parking feature? if we're going to have auto headlights and washers we might as well have self parking!
 

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Those old Vario Dafffodils were strange...not only did they go as fast
in reverse as they did forwards, they had a nasty habit of engaging
drive if you got out of the car and left the engine running, e.g. to
close the garage door. Nothing worse than seeing a car go zooming past
with nobody at the wheel!
Here is a red one making a bid for freedom as its Dutch owner concludes a drug deal in an Amsterdam car park. Note the masks on the two Mafia gentlemen who provided the cocaine.
 

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I remember watching the rubber bands in action through a large rusty hole in the floor, one band for each drive side so it compensated for turning etc, slightly mesmerising, but definately didn't wan to own one.
 

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If you went through a puddle the rubber bands used to slip
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The note auto is a nice drive generally.

Mine gets very confused after a sprint start, stand on the pedal 'till it gets to 30 then lift off and it has a bit of trouble sorting out top gear. It is a little clunky engaging 1st if you almost stop then start off again.
Could be rose coloured glasses, but I remember the old Borg-Warner 35 on my Rover p6 was a beautiful change.
At least it doesn't drop out of gear like the old Vectra when you are standing. Two footed driving used to get a terrific clang out of that when it dropped back into gear at about 1500rpm to start off
 
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