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Now that the colder weather has started to arrive so has the moisture again on the inside of the wife's Note.
Went to help her scrape the ice off the outside this morning when she reminded me about this problem, it's been getting wet inside every winter when the overnight temperatures drop.
Been all over the car can't find any leaks anywhere, (no wet carpets etc) and it only seems to affect the front windscreen.

My old Saxo sits next to it on the drive so is subject to the same conditions but doesn't suffer this problem. (It's quite happily corroding from the outside
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Just wondered if anyone else's car does this and if so have you cured it & how
 

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My 2007 1.4 SE has the same misting problem, again, I can't find any obvious leaks and there are no damp patches anywhere in the car. My guess is that is might have something to do with the air conditioning condenser, but I don't know where this is or where it is supposed to drain to. Any help greatly appreciated!
 

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It's an 'undocumented feature'.

No idea where it comes from, no leaks but running with water every damp morning.

A bloody nuisance to which the many on here who share the problem have no 'killer' solution.
 

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Hi,I had the same issue and it was water in the boot, around the spare wheel. My issue was that the seals around the clips on the roof, which hold the boomerang part of the rear lights on the roof, where not doing their job and water was passing them.
 

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Its condensation, warm air laden with water vapour condensing on a cooler surface.

You will be quite surprised how much water vapour there is in your breath.

Cures, very difficult - increase outside ventilation, put air con on full blast (to help dry the air out), good absorbent cloths etc.

An eternal battle I am afraid.
 

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^ change your pollen filter, that help'd our Note out loads.


my t plate GTi does this on very cold morning, last yr i resulted to using our karcher window vac on the inside of the screen. again no sign of damp carpets orhead lining:(



i have dark tinted wind defectors fitted and will lower my front windows down 10mm and see if thats any better when i come to leave work today at 4:30pm. yesterday evening was the same, moisture huff
 

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Pollen filter changed.

Every seam checked for leaks, no damp anywhere.

It's just 'first thing' condensation which the (I could pass wind with more power) Note fan struggles to clear. Microfibre cloths it is!
 

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The carpets and upholstery can hold a fair bit of moisture in the winter even though they feel dry to the touch. As the car warms up on a journey it starts to evaporate the moisture out the fabrics and into the cabin combined with the moisture from breathing, it can make for a surprisingly humid air. At journeys end, the car quickly cools and the moisture in the air condenses on the windows (and re-absorbed by the fabrics) You can see a lot of water on the interior glass this way. What I do when it is a dry day is to leave the windows open as long as I can to let the air dry out the car as much as possible, as a result the condensation build up in my car is minimal and manageable. If you can't leave your car open then a possible solution would be to open your windows for the last few minutes of a journey to allow the warm moist air to escape before stopping and the car cools down. Fair enough you will get a blast of cold air round your ears but doing this does help keep the condensation down a fair bit.....at least it did on a damp Vauxhall Nova....and my Astra....and my Carlton years ago
 

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I think we are so used our comfortable motors now days

just before I started driving i recollect a relative saying that the heater was an optional extra in his morris 1000 van.
I also remember fitting aftermarket rear screen heater in my mk2 escort ,plus further back on an A40
farina something called Gnomist panel a kind of plastic double glazed panel. like this--
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/gnomist-mist-panel-bmc-works-rally-166052648

and drilling a few holes in spare wheel well to let the rain water out.

all the best
 

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My auld faither had an aftermarket rear screen heater for his Triumph Herald. It was a thick foil grid embedded into clear sticky back plastic. He never got round to fitting it :)

The days when nylon stockings would make an emergency replacement fan belt, when my faither ran out of petrol one night on the way to a party and tipped a bottle of whisky in to the tank to get back home. (it worked too)....he cried all the way home at the waste
 

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sorry the Scottish family heritage bit showing through here- BUT i would only tip the whisky into me,or a tumbler then me. car would have been left to its own devices.


Sadly due to pain meds I dont drink much any more --but can always dream of better days lol.

all the best
 

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If no-one has mentioned this already ..

Make sure your air flow isn't permanently set to recirculate, as this prevents fresh air coming in and just recirculates increasingly moist air inside the car.
 

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crunchie said:
 My auld faither had an aftermarket rear screen heater for his Triumph Herald. It was a thick foil grid embedded into clear sticky back plastic. He never got round to fitting it :)

The days when nylon stockings would make an emergency replacement fan belt, when my faither ran out of petrol one night on the way to a party and tipped a bottle of whisky in to the tank to get back home. (it worked too)....he cried all the way home at the waste
I had two of those! Made by Smiths Industries and stuck fast to the rear windows of my first car (a Mini Countryman). Also managed to get it home once with a hand throttle made from some string and a duffel-coat toggle threaded through the choke cable hole when the throttle cable snapped at 2 in the morning just outside Guildford. That a was a 'fun' drive home.
 

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Oakbank's advice to drill holes in the spare wheel well is OK as long as you make the hole edge nearer the front of the car angle downwards (or the back edge angle upwards) to ensure that you're not scooping water into the well as you whizz forwards. (Presumably you don't whizz backwards.)

I have oodles of condensation, but it's mainly because of leaks. I had less water ingress in a 1936 Austin 8 when it was over 25 years old. You'd think that with modern technology and all the clever designers we have these days ... (Goes off grumbling pointlessly to self.)
 

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Trouble with clever designers is that they always want to reinvent the wheel. They never want to improve on the tried and tested designs and materials. "Let's be innovative" They say (in unison) and to the depths of hell with whether it works properly, has longevity or is easy to maintain. "Let's have everything controlled by computer" They enthuse. Management then all pipe up: "Yes, brilliant that means that people can't fix or service their own cars, they will have to come to us and we can charge them a fortune. Brilliant" This causes us formerly able to diagnose and fix things roadside to "(Goes off grumbling pointlessly to self.)" to quote Old Frank.
 

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GeorgeP56 said:
If no-one has mentioned this already ..

Make sure your air flow isn't permanently set to recirculate, as this prevents fresh air coming in and just recirculates increasingly moist air inside the car.

Air control is set to fresh not to recirculate. Problem only occurs on front window tho' none of the others.

All my other windows are 35% tinted (looks quite good on a black car) perhaps this has something to do with it only being the front one which gets moisture on it.
 

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I hope that your front side windows aren't tinted 35% or you could be facing a prohibition notice at best or £60 and three points per window if the police are having an off day.


The max is 25% and, round here, they routinely stop and test.
 
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