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So I'm wanting to lift my e11 nissan note, and I've been looking at a few options on price and performance.
The most practical and cost effective way is to spring lift, but I can't find suitable springs?

Can anyone help me find suitable lift springs.
Looking for around 40mm lift minimum 20mm.

The best I've found that is available and cost effective is spacers, however these don't of course add suspension travel.

Thanks to anyone who reads and replies 馃槉.

Even if its a set of non nissan note e11 springs that will fit and add onto stock height like per say nissan juke lift springs or so on.
 

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By increasing the ride height by 40mm you will ruin the car and make it potentially dangerous. 20mm will simply ruin it (OK, it may still make it dangerous).

The suspension geometry will be way outside Nissans design criteria, correcting it will require parts to be professionally designed specially made.

Doubt your insurers would cover a car modified like that.

If you need something higher sell the Note and buy something suitable.
 

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Potentially? If I have any issues I could revert to the old springs.
Also cars are lowered this much and more all the time, if you're going to make such bold claims can you at least back them up, give examples and show how that it would cause such a big problem?

There are plenty of spacers available as I've also said, and as far from what I've seen they don't cause an issue?
 

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By increasing the ride height by 40mm you will ruin the car and make it potentially dangerous. 20mm will simply ruin it (OK, it may still make it dangerous).

The suspension geometry will be way outside Nissans design criteria, correcting it will require parts to be professionally designed specially made.

Doubt your insurers would cover a car modified like that.

If you need something higher sell the Note and buy something suitable.
He didn't ask you for a lecture on morality and engineering. He asked you where he can get taller springs for his car, and you didn't answer the question.

You can contact any custom spring company who will know your car's spring rate, and seating requirements. Increase by 20mm is fine. Your driving characteristics will alter. You will require to adjust camber dramatically as the camber will go positive the higher it gets.

Seek a local Motorsport garage, they raise rally cars for gravel surfaces like it's nothing. Expect to pay around 拢5,000 for a custom setup with camber / castor alterations and custom parts CNC machined. if you want to spend money to raise your vehicle then that's awesome dude!

Let the experts take care of you, and put the big guy above on ignore.
 

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He didn't ask you for a lecture on morality and engineering. He asked you where he can get taller springs for his car, and you didn't answer the question.
What many people do not appreciate the amount of design and R & D that manufacturers put into their products. There is no way there is enough tolerance within the design to allow a 40mm rise in ride height without seriously compromising the safety of the car. The production struts/dampers will be well outside their design specifications and the possibility of there being enough adjustment to allow correction of camber caster at the front would be doubtful. Most modern cars have no adjustment at the rear. Have you ever followed a stupidly lowered boy racers cars, the wheels will be out at the bottom which no doubt the driver thinks looks great but its wearing out the tyres rapidly and in an emergency unsafe. Raise the car and the wheels will be in at the bottom wearing the outside edge and the car will be equally unsafe.

No doubt there is a company out there who would take on the work the design and manufacture parts to do the job properly but why would anyone want to spend stupid money on an old MPV that is not that valuable when in reality no one ever modifies one.

I say it again, buy a proper car that suits your needs.
 

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What many people do not appreciate the amount of design and R & D that manufacturers put into their products. There is no way there is enough tolerance within the design to allow a 40mm rise in ride height without seriously compromising the safety of the car. The production struts/dampers will be well outside their design specifications and the possibility of there being enough adjustment to allow correction of camber caster at the front would be doubtful. Most modern cars have no adjustment at the rear. Have you ever followed a stupidly lowered boy racers cars, the wheels will be out at the bottom which no doubt the driver thinks looks great but its wearing out the tyres rapidly and in an emergency unsafe. Raise the car and the wheels will be in at the bottom wearing the outside edge and the car will be equally unsafe.

No doubt there is a company out there who would take on the work the design and manufacture parts to do the job properly but why would anyone want to spend stupid money on an old MPV that is not that valuable when in reality no one ever modifies one.

I say it again, buy a proper car that suits your needs.
For the same reasons that Dacia Dusters, aka an 2004 nissan X -trail gallops through the saharan-peruvian deserts in an FIA sanctioned Motorsport event.

Not bad for an old banger MPV.

Now, do you know where the fellow can get some springs? Try answering someone's question next time. You're not half as smart as you realise.

You didn't realise you're talking to someone who builds wind turbines for a living and has a degree in Engineering. Your theory just died on it's backside when you forgot to take into account the relationship with increased camber and reduced castor.
 

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You're talking about Rally prepared suspension essentially, which is a totally different animal. Not a 'normal' road going vehicle. We don't recommend what is deemed as unsafe/illegal/Insurance nullification. etc.

For Tarmac use, vehicles are generally lowered, not lifted.

If the original poster has ideas about Rally preparation, he'd be better off asking in a forum that deals with such issues.

As you can see there is no section within this site, regarding Rally prep. There is a very good reason for that, and that is we don't deal with it.

But can you recommend where else the O.P. should go, to find out further information for Rally prep., other than here.
 

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You're talking about Rally prepared suspension essentially, which is a totally different animal. Not a 'normal' road going vehicle. We don't recommend what is deemed as unsafe/illegal/Insurance nullification. etc.
If the original poster has ideas about Rally preparation, he'd be better off asking in a forum that deals with such issues.

As you can see there is section within this site, regarding Rally prep. There is a very good reason for that, and that is we don't deal with it.

But can you recommend where else the O.P. should go, to find out further information, other than here.
Motorsport Engineering deals with offroading, raises suspension set ups, geometry changes. Taking your car to Halfords auto centre will not help you at all, when they deal with road going vehicles from factory. To modify your car in such a way will require an Motorsport / Engineering background in the real world, as you do not have any places outside of a coach builders who would undertake this kind of work.

For example, my friend raised his old Samurai but had specific requirements. He wanted to raise it by 80mm for climbing up rocky inclines, on route to the Scottish Hydro Electric Damm which is at the top of loch Lomond. To do this, he simply dropped it off at SOS Motorsport and had a custom suspension set up within 2 weeks. This comprises of dual pivoting rose joints, gas-hydraulic struts & KPI alterations to nullify the effects of the negative castor after an 80mm raise. Custom CNC'd arms with an added upper arm to prevent sway.

4x4 specialists were clueless and turned him away, citing that he take it to, ironically, guess where?

This car was a perfectly normal, mot'd road going vehicle. It's engine was not touched. Hopefully you understand the difference between a fella who works on banger land rovers, and a garage who can offer custom suspension set ups and engineering for any scenario.

There's reasons why a Dacia duster will fly over the Andes, whilst a land rover will crawl. What if the land rover wanted to fly, it would require a visit to a Motorsport workshop for a custom set up.

Now let that Dacia duster out on the road, and go as slow as you like. Rally isn't just WRC mate, and all rally cars require an MOT. So the insurance nonsense is to be ignored. You are wrong.
 

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Contact these guys. I knew a man called Jack who worked here, though it's been a few years, who made me some lowering springs for an old 50's car, where no off the shelf parts were available lol. Explain to him that you require a 20mm spring height increase, and if you require a former spring then let them know exactly why you need the increased ride height. They'll certainly have the knowledge to get you to where you want to be 馃檪
 

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For the same reasons that Dacia Dusters, aka an 2004 nissan X -trail gallops through the saharan-peruvian deserts in an FIA sanctioned Motorsport event.
You are having a laugh or simply showing your lack of knowledge. Those car will not simply have a set of long springs fitted to an 8 year old car. They will be built from scratch by a professional organisation at a cost that you would find eye watering. The only standard parts on the cars are probably the glass and door handles.

Your theory just died on it's backside when you forgot to take into account the relationship with increased camber and reduced castor.
I do know a thing or 2 about setting up suspension, raced from 1989 to 2003 with many class wins and championship success. That was fact and not theory.

So the insurance nonsense is to be ignored.
Saying that proves how little you know. All modifications to vehicles have to be notified to your insurers, if you don't its likely you will find you have no cover, raising a car 40mm would be easy to spot even by a blind assessor. Major modifications like the OP is suggesting would probably require inspection by an engineer to ensure the vehicle was safe.
 

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You are having a laugh or simply showing your lack of knowledge. Those car will not simply have a set of long springs fitted to an 8 year old car. They will be built from scratch by a professional organisation at a cost that you would find eye watering. The only standard parts on the cars are probably the glass and door handles.



I do know a thing or 2 about setting up suspension, raced from 1989 to 2003 with many class wins and championship success. That was fact and not theory.



Saying that proves how little you know. All modifications to vehicles have to be notified to your insurers, if you don't its likely you will find you have no cover, raising a car 40mm would be easy to spot even by a blind assessor. Major modifications like the OP is suggesting would probably require inspection by an engineer to ensure the vehicle was safe.

No one said modifications didn't have to be declared. You're just reading something you wanted to read, and not what I said.

I'm in the process of building, ok, rebuilding my father's 6R4. That lack of knowledge is going to be uhm, costly in your eyes?

Jerry done not bad in his 1993 samurai three years ago. I suppose by your logic though, that didn't happen and I'm lying. The total price was 拢5-6k in total. All those people raising their 1950's LR's will be in for a shock according to your "logic". We can talk about roll centres for on the road, scrub radius how the Geo and the others will effect the stability of a vehicle when raised, without further modifications and using springs only.

The OP asked for springs, and so far, I'm the only person who's pointed him in the right direction for a 20mm raised set. Try and answer the fellas question.
 

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The OP asked for springs, and so far, I'm the only person who's pointed him in the right direction for a 20mm raised set. Try and answer the fellas question.
When someone asks about doing a dangerous mod I will always point them in the right direction which is DON'T DO IT.
 

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'So the insurance nonsense is to be ignored. You are wrong'............This is the quote you made Perhaps I read it wrong.?!

Anyway, with all that said, in this enquiry the OP can make up his own mind.

Comments will be closed for now.
 
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