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Greetings,

I've had my 2015 Note 1.2 DIG-S Acenta Premium for 2 weeks now, and am generally happy with it. One thing I can't get my head around is the air con, as it only seems to come on about a quarter of an hour into a journey. Surely this is not normal? My last car that had A/C was pretty much instantaneous. I do find the controls for the heating/cooling system a bit confusing anyway, especially the auto button, so it's possible I'm not operating the controls right.

When I start the car and put the Air Conditioning on, it blows hot air for a while before cooling down eventually to a neutral temp, neither hot or cold. I guess this could just be due to the warm weather and the build up of heat through the day though.

If anyone's got any insight into this I'd be grateful. I expect it's just the usual thing of needing to be regassed/serviced.

Thanks!
 

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That's seems normal. Mine is the same. It's not the best aircon the world.:wink:

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Ah, that's a shame then. My daily commute is 15 minutes so I'm not often going to get the benefit, but thanks very much for letting me know.
 

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Hi Mike, your model will have an auto mode button on the left of the console (same as mine)
When activated the system will keep an even temperature as set.
I generally set mine at 18 degrees.
It cools down within five minutes or so.
The fact that yours does cool eventually could mean either weak gas, or a thermostat fault.
It'll need to go in to a reputable air con engineer for proper diagnosis. Please update the forum on your progress.
 

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Hi Jymmer, thanks for the advice. I tested my auto mode again on the way back today, 16 degrees, blew warm air all the way. Not sure why it automatically chooses circulated air rather than flow through, either. When I next go to see my folks (a greater distance away) on Saturday, I'll see if it goes cool again.

I've found a specialist air conditioning service near to me, Coolrunning. Their standard service and re-gas is £69, but it's saying call for a quote on R1234YF gassed vehicles, so shall see. Will have to wait a couple of weeks though as I'm off on holiday on Sunday.

Peace and long life!
 

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Expect nearer £120 using R1234yf as the refrigerant is bloody expensive but is, according to my mate who runs a regassing service, far less prone to leaks as the systems are better engineered to cope with R1234yf (or should be).
 

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Yes ditto, it'll cost you mike. I would add that my note also remains on re circulating air for at least ten minutes.
But i can feel lovely cold air immediately, and the car is well cooled as i said earlier within five. It usually switches over to outside throughput air at or around that time.
I wouldn't care about the cost too much... It's just got to be put right regardless.
It's a must have feature that's worth every penny mate, and if the right guys fix it, it'll last for years.
 

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Thanks Nigel B and Jymmer. Sorry for the late reply.

Am happy to pay the going rate to get this sorted, I've been in a basic Fiat Panda for 8 summers now wishing I had air con! Off to Austria tomorrow, but this will be done more or less straight after - will let you know how it goes.
 

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Hey guys,

I took the car to Cool Running Air Con Services today. Had to wait about 15 minutes as there were cars waiting to be done - no surprise. Felt a little sorry for the chap, there's no respite from the heat for him, working out in the sun with hot engines. Bet he gets no summer holiday either!

So he attached his diagnostic equipment and told me that it would be perfect with just a re-gas, so no problems there thankfully. 5 minutes later he got me to turn it on, and almost instantly cool air came out. £149 well spent, and guaranteed for 8 months, should there be a problem, I can get a free re-gas after fixing it. I enjoyed the air con whilst driving around town later, it's such a luxury after the best part of a decade without it. It comes through within 5 seconds of turning on now.

Thanks again everyone for your help!
 

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I spoke too soon. Aircon needs flushing and regassing, will cost €80, at my main dealer.:smile_big:

That's £71 in your old funny money.:grin:

First time it's been touched in 9 years.:smile:

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£71.00, that's not a bad price from your main dealer :wink:, and not touching it in 9 years.
That works out at aprox £7.80 per year, now that's cheap motoring :smile_big: .
 
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On the same subject --
My air con is not as cold as it used to be, i'm guessing it needs re-gassing.
Question is - Would anyone trust a garage that advertises "Air con re-gas, ANY make/model inc vans. ONLY £39-95" ?
Seems a tad cheap to me.
Too good to be true ?
 

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Beware the £40 'two blue bottles' re-gas merchants.


A 'proper' re-gas will cost twice that and takes about an hour (you can't do that and factor in the cost of the refrigerant for £40).


It should involve

  • Vacuum extracting the old refrigerant
  • Weighing it
  • Pressure testing the system
  • Re-filling with EXACTLY the correct amount of fresh refrigerant and the required amount of seal lubricant
  • Pressure and system testing

Anthongless is a 'Dodge City' job.
 

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If it's some back street garage, leave well alone. you know what they say about "Too good to be true"??


there must be some good companies around your way, look in yellow pages or on the internet in a road that you know a bit about.
 

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Exactly what i thought, can't be done for that price.
It's a garage on a major road at a place called Gunness, they have a car dealer next door and they apparently do all his vehicles.
But it did seem far too low a price to be any good.I'll have a word with a local indi that i use and ask where he gets it done,i know he doesn't do it as he does not have a license.

Hmmm - interestingly the garage i alluded to is the only one listed in yellow pages for air con regas AND it's got a glowing list of recommendations ?
 

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If the garage has glowing reviews it might just be worth a punt at that price.
I'd go and have a chat with them if they are local and weigh the geezers up.
 

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Methinks i will have a word with my local indi guy first and then the other place and compare the two to see which is the better.
 

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Now here's a question......Livng in Ireland, there's never too much of a need for aircon. I hardly ever used it, anyway.:sad:

If I pull the fuse for the aircon, will there be any lasting effects, if its cleaned out what's left of the refrigererant, and never use it again.?

I mean, for what I spend on getting it regassed, is really a waste of cash for me. If it creates more problems doing that, I will get it sorted.:wink:
 

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I would think that the rubber seals would shrink,crack or perish in some way meaning replacing them if you ever decided to re-instate the air con.
Possibly the clutch on the compressor could also seize through lack of use ?
I'm no expert, it's just my guess is all.
 
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